Mees Baaijen introduces his new book The Predators vs. the People: The Big Picture of the 500-Year Secret War Against Humanity. He makes a case that a global mafia or “Glafia” has been riding the power of usury, a.k.a. exponentially-compounding interest, toward complete global domination. For an introduction to his thesis, check out his 2016 article “
I found this conversation very interesting. However, I don't quite by the single, controlling group theory of the author. This is because it doesn't take into account individual agency.
This is not to say that such a group or many such groups do not exist. However, to date, their only real accomplishment in history is to cause the average mortal a lot of misery with their political machinations.
The idea that an individual group has been working for centuries to develop a one world governmental body, to me, is a bit far fetched. Given that in earlier times they would have had less people to contend with and still had no success in developing such a governmental model there is little possibility that with close to nine billion people on the planet they will fare any better; especially with the mass communications that are now available to nearly everyone on the planet in one form or another.
Of course many empires have attempted to control the world but only Rome was able to control a large part of the "known" world at the time. Rome, The Ottoman Empire, and the Austrian Empire to date have been the only successful empires to bring varying levels of sustained peace to their environs.
And though Rome is portrayed as some form of ruthless conqueror, more recent research into the development of Christianity, for which there is new evidence to consider that it was an outgrowth of Flavianism, has also shown that the image that the modern world has of Rome was actually created in Hollywood. The reality was that Rome was a far more open society and more accepting of different peoples than today populations understand.
The Ottoman Empire brought a general peace for nearly a thousand years, most likely as a result that the Ottoman rulers did not recognize national boundaries within their empire.
The Austrian Empire kept relatively long periods of peace for around 900 years because they believed in the old Italian adage, "Make love, not war", and followed through with foreign policies that were heavily invested in marriage and diplomacy.
The Byzantine Empire, more or less followed the courses that the previous three empires took but because of their geographic position had to rely on not only diplomacy but eventually a highly trained and mobile army that evolved as a result of the difficulties of dealing with Attila and his Huns.
As to the ancient Jews, I also have to disagree with the author here. First, archeological research has shown that the area of Palestine was possibly originally inhabited and cultivated by the Phoenicians, which later gave rise to the Kingdom of Israel. However, this ancient kingdom was "Jewish" but instead Hebraic. And the ancient Hebrews do not appear to have really had any religious affiliations with the actual Jews that arose in the smaller kingdom of Judea, just to the south.
If famed war correspondent and journalist, Douglas Reed, and his last publication (after his death) is anywhere near accurate ("The Controversy of Zion"), then the ancient Hebrews believed the Judeans were bat-shit crazy and wanted nothing to do with them. So we in the rest of the world got them instead.
Judea, according to the research I have done on the subject, was never part of the Kingdom of Israel. It was at times however, "confederated" with the kingdom in times when such a confederation made sense.
Finally, the idea of some form of "evil" pervades our world, to me, is an abstraction of just a lot of shitty Human Beings. And the problem with looking at such as an abstraction leads people to believe in another abstraction to save them from such evil, namely god or many gods. In this respect, the ancient gods of Greece and Rome actually made more sense than the fairly tale versions we get today from Old and New Testaments. Those ancient gods were there not to save Humanity but to merely interact with it.
But if we look at the actual god the ancient Judeans chose to be their own, they had to be some really fucked up people to pick a psychopathic entity such as Yahweh...
The only way I have noticed plans and operations spanning out over decades and even centuries is through families. With technology the pie gets bigger and with the deep state grows along with it. George Carlin: "It's a big party and we ain't in it. The royal families in England and the Netherlands are among th e richest inth the world (The biggest stockholder in Royal Dutch Shell) The Rothchilds - the Rockefellers It is said that 500 families control Mexico 30 families run El Salvador It is said there are families in Italy that have been wealthy since the times of the Roman Empire. Families in Florence that have been wealthy for a thousand years (Read the Leopard ) The German Thyssen Krupp conglomerate is the biggest in Germany still today.There are always groups of operators like the Cecil Rhodes group who continued after his death who engineered WW1. The banking elites made money off of both sides. Matthew Ehret somewhat agrees with Mees as he says the banking elites go back to Venice banking elites after the fall of Rome in the 6th century. Moved to Amsterdam and then London as their center. I agree with Kevin that the world is too big for one small group to control everything. The deep state is not monolithic. I do agree with Mees that the banker conspiracy is the biggest and in plain site. Economics reading are one of the better ways to find a way when your have trouble getting to sleeping. Academic economics never talks about debt while Wall financial dealings are deliberately made complicated - can you explain how synthetic Collateralized Debt Obligations work? There is a difference between the old oligarchic families in Europe and the newer ones in the US. The AngloZionist US empire did 9/11. The Jewish American oligarchies have been steadily replacing the New England Anglos starting with Roosevelt. The national security state and Israel killed JFK (you do remember Jacob Rubinstein), RFK, and MLK in the 60s and got away with it. Their power in the US has been increasing every decade since. I think Putin is a Russian nationalist although there are still 5th columnists in Russia (contrast him with Yeltsin). At this time the post Mao dynasty in China desires the good for the general population. Although there is no guarantee that the control power technology gives them won't be misused by future generations of Chinese leaders. Corbett thinks Russia and China are parts of the deep state central control because he is biased towards anarchy. The Corona plandemic clearly shows that the entire world mainstream medical establishment is under the globalists control including Russia and China
I found this conversation very interesting. However, I don't quite by the single, controlling group theory of the author. This is because it doesn't take into account individual agency.
This is not to say that such a group or many such groups do not exist. However, to date, their only real accomplishment in history is to cause the average mortal a lot of misery with their political machinations.
The idea that an individual group has been working for centuries to develop a one world governmental body, to me, is a bit far fetched. Given that in earlier times they would have had less people to contend with and still had no success in developing such a governmental model there is little possibility that with close to nine billion people on the planet they will fare any better; especially with the mass communications that are now available to nearly everyone on the planet in one form or another.
Of course many empires have attempted to control the world but only Rome was able to control a large part of the "known" world at the time. Rome, The Ottoman Empire, and the Austrian Empire to date have been the only successful empires to bring varying levels of sustained peace to their environs.
And though Rome is portrayed as some form of ruthless conqueror, more recent research into the development of Christianity, for which there is new evidence to consider that it was an outgrowth of Flavianism, has also shown that the image that the modern world has of Rome was actually created in Hollywood. The reality was that Rome was a far more open society and more accepting of different peoples than today populations understand.
The Ottoman Empire brought a general peace for nearly a thousand years, most likely as a result that the Ottoman rulers did not recognize national boundaries within their empire.
The Austrian Empire kept relatively long periods of peace for around 900 years because they believed in the old Italian adage, "Make love, not war", and followed through with foreign policies that were heavily invested in marriage and diplomacy.
The Byzantine Empire, more or less followed the courses that the previous three empires took but because of their geographic position had to rely on not only diplomacy but eventually a highly trained and mobile army that evolved as a result of the difficulties of dealing with Attila and his Huns.
As to the ancient Jews, I also have to disagree with the author here. First, archeological research has shown that the area of Palestine was possibly originally inhabited and cultivated by the Phoenicians, which later gave rise to the Kingdom of Israel. However, this ancient kingdom was "Jewish" but instead Hebraic. And the ancient Hebrews do not appear to have really had any religious affiliations with the actual Jews that arose in the smaller kingdom of Judea, just to the south.
If famed war correspondent and journalist, Douglas Reed, and his last publication (after his death) is anywhere near accurate ("The Controversy of Zion"), then the ancient Hebrews believed the Judeans were bat-shit crazy and wanted nothing to do with them. So we in the rest of the world got them instead.
Judea, according to the research I have done on the subject, was never part of the Kingdom of Israel. It was at times however, "confederated" with the kingdom in times when such a confederation made sense.
Finally, the idea of some form of "evil" pervades our world, to me, is an abstraction of just a lot of shitty Human Beings. And the problem with looking at such as an abstraction leads people to believe in another abstraction to save them from such evil, namely god or many gods. In this respect, the ancient gods of Greece and Rome actually made more sense than the fairly tale versions we get today from Old and New Testaments. Those ancient gods were there not to save Humanity but to merely interact with it.
But if we look at the actual god the ancient Judeans chose to be their own, they had to be some really fucked up people to pick a psychopathic entity such as Yahweh...
The only way I have noticed plans and operations spanning out over decades and even centuries is through families. With technology the pie gets bigger and with the deep state grows along with it. George Carlin: "It's a big party and we ain't in it. The royal families in England and the Netherlands are among th e richest inth the world (The biggest stockholder in Royal Dutch Shell) The Rothchilds - the Rockefellers It is said that 500 families control Mexico 30 families run El Salvador It is said there are families in Italy that have been wealthy since the times of the Roman Empire. Families in Florence that have been wealthy for a thousand years (Read the Leopard ) The German Thyssen Krupp conglomerate is the biggest in Germany still today.There are always groups of operators like the Cecil Rhodes group who continued after his death who engineered WW1. The banking elites made money off of both sides. Matthew Ehret somewhat agrees with Mees as he says the banking elites go back to Venice banking elites after the fall of Rome in the 6th century. Moved to Amsterdam and then London as their center. I agree with Kevin that the world is too big for one small group to control everything. The deep state is not monolithic. I do agree with Mees that the banker conspiracy is the biggest and in plain site. Economics reading are one of the better ways to find a way when your have trouble getting to sleeping. Academic economics never talks about debt while Wall financial dealings are deliberately made complicated - can you explain how synthetic Collateralized Debt Obligations work? There is a difference between the old oligarchic families in Europe and the newer ones in the US. The AngloZionist US empire did 9/11. The Jewish American oligarchies have been steadily replacing the New England Anglos starting with Roosevelt. The national security state and Israel killed JFK (you do remember Jacob Rubinstein), RFK, and MLK in the 60s and got away with it. Their power in the US has been increasing every decade since. I think Putin is a Russian nationalist although there are still 5th columnists in Russia (contrast him with Yeltsin). At this time the post Mao dynasty in China desires the good for the general population. Although there is no guarantee that the control power technology gives them won't be misused by future generations of Chinese leaders. Corbett thinks Russia and China are parts of the deep state central control because he is biased towards anarchy. The Corona plandemic clearly shows that the entire world mainstream medical establishment is under the globalists control including Russia and China