"Miracles are not contrary to nature, but only contrary to what we know about nature." ~ St. Augustine
If someone thinks, e.g., that the Bible stories about miracles are mythological, it is probably because he thinks miracles are impossible, which is much more a deliberate choice than a reasoned conclusion in the face of historical evidence. And if someone disbelieves in miracles, he usually disbelieves in God as well. But denial of God is also a choice, not a reasoned conclusion.
"Anyone who denies God has reasons for wanting Him not to exist." - St Augustine
Just because almost all Christian denominations have become corrupted, including the Vatican, the latter definitively since 1958 when the papacy was usurped by the “powers that ought not be” (whitesmoke1958.com), and just because there are many false "miracles," either hoaxes or demonic manifestations, that doesn’t mean there is no such thing as authentic Christianity or authentic miracles. As the saying goes, “Abusus non tollit usum,” "Abuse (of something) doesn't negate its (legitimate) use."
See the great G.K. Chesterton on miracles from his famous book, Orthodoxy:
"...my belief that miracles have happened in human history is not a mystical belief at all; I believe in them upon human evidences as I do in the discovery of America. Upon this point there is a simple logical fact that only requires to be stated and cleared up. Somehow or other an extraordinary idea has arisen that the disbelievers in miracles consider them coldly and fairly, while believers in miracles accept them only in connection with some dogma. The fact is quite the other way. The believers in miracles accept them (rightly or wrongly) because they have evidence for them. The disbelievers in miracles deny them (rightly or wrongly) because they have a doctrine against them."
If you find that intellectually stimulating, see more of his profound thought & captivating prose in the rest of the book here: ccel.org/ccel/chesterton/orthodoxy.html
Thank you very much! I'm one of the relatively small but growing number of traditional Catholics independent of Judeo-Masonic colonized & apostate Rome. It's the fulfillment of prophesy, called the Great Apostasy. The 1958 papal conclave is the pivotal event, as my link above explains. More on my X page, @rosaryknight.
Thank you …..We are non sectarian regenerated Slavic Americans pro 2A real Christians ….so we are not …*sole scriptural Protestants in that sense but perceive your clarity also…” God bless..God Speed…
Hi Kevin..thanks again for your absolutely beautiful high consciousness reply to our previous comment on dogmatic persecutorial obscurantism...your reply..was....an..abject joy to read...unfortunate that other relatively public..enlightened thought leaders aren't as scholarly as yourself...**
your last comment shows you to be crazy.... as for Jesus.... why would god require human sacrifice? that's a primitive idea... its superstitious... its a very strange god that would require such a thing in order for anyone to be 'saved.'
That's a very common current ..trendy false narrative..but No one ever was more *anti-talmudic -bolshevism than* Jesus* Remember THE JEWS Screamed ...*let His Blood be on our heads and our children's heads*..they got what they wanted..The Deocidal Curse*...
YOUHAVE THE BIBLEAND THEN YOUHAVE REALHSTORY.... ITSCLEAR CHRISTIANITY GATHERED THE DISSATIFIEDAND WAS A REVOLUTION THAT HAS COMMITTEDMANY GNOCIDES AND TOTALLY DESTROYED THE NATIVE RELIGIONS OFEUROPEANS....THE CRIMES OF CHRISTIANITY ARE GREA BUT THEN YOUCAN'T HANDLE ALL THE TRUTH
Please be welcome to recall that…we don't delimit freedom s we don't make ad hominem subjective and cherry picked attacks on any decent person anywhere..we don't serve Jews..ZIONISTS..or any would be empire building false authority .if you or anyone wants to use past grievances real or imagined to justify Isrreali..-jewish supremacy please go away**We don't support the genocides ethnic cleansing and exterminations by isreal and millions of Jews*.in Palestine..*. You don't seem open to other or different ideas than your own..no problem ..leave us alone** We don't attack Christians or natural law advocates or decent folk anywhere ..*
We agree with your last point about evangelicals and some..not all dead churches but your hostility to us is not correct …and not welcome...If you think you will stop JEWS by attacking Christians on the myopic basis of some false churches…you serve. THE JEWS**There..fixed it for you. Go falsely accuse or try to coerce someone else “*. Go talk abusively..down to someone Else”
Thank you for screaming a subjective cherry picked ad ho.onrm reply..please know in actual fact* we* don't support dead churches but unlike Jews ..Communists and other satanic malefactors we don't attack Christians ..free thinkers. ..natural law advocates..or any decent moral folk..if you have do little scholarship so little tolerance if different approaches different ideas that..in any case. Do not threaten you or delimit freedom of any other decent persons .please be welcome to go away*
I'm afraid I'll miss the livestream but miracles have been much on my mind. Rather than the seas parting to let the Usurping Rulers and their terrorists escape, I think miracles are the mundane things that let us know there's purpose and meaning behind our circumstances. They can never convince anyone else but that's not necessary: you only need to convince yourself in order to change everything. In my latest, I talk about the most mundane miracles ever, and the video is one of my most fun: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/the-sox-box-miracle
Well, I couldn't hit 'like' on that :-( I'll look forward to it when it's restored. But my definition of miracles would say there's meaning and purpose in that disruption. My friend Rev. Katie Grace redefines WTF as 'What's This For?' So I'm sure it will come back in a better form. Inshallah, which really sums up that whole philosophy in a word.
"Miracles are not contrary to nature, but only contrary to what we know about nature." ~ St. Augustine
If someone thinks, e.g., that the Bible stories about miracles are mythological, it is probably because he thinks miracles are impossible, which is much more a deliberate choice than a reasoned conclusion in the face of historical evidence. And if someone disbelieves in miracles, he usually disbelieves in God as well. But denial of God is also a choice, not a reasoned conclusion.
"Anyone who denies God has reasons for wanting Him not to exist." - St Augustine
Just because almost all Christian denominations have become corrupted, including the Vatican, the latter definitively since 1958 when the papacy was usurped by the “powers that ought not be” (whitesmoke1958.com), and just because there are many false "miracles," either hoaxes or demonic manifestations, that doesn’t mean there is no such thing as authentic Christianity or authentic miracles. As the saying goes, “Abusus non tollit usum,” "Abuse (of something) doesn't negate its (legitimate) use."
See the great G.K. Chesterton on miracles from his famous book, Orthodoxy:
"...my belief that miracles have happened in human history is not a mystical belief at all; I believe in them upon human evidences as I do in the discovery of America. Upon this point there is a simple logical fact that only requires to be stated and cleared up. Somehow or other an extraordinary idea has arisen that the disbelievers in miracles consider them coldly and fairly, while believers in miracles accept them only in connection with some dogma. The fact is quite the other way. The believers in miracles accept them (rightly or wrongly) because they have evidence for them. The disbelievers in miracles deny them (rightly or wrongly) because they have a doctrine against them."
Continued at spiritualmeanderings.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/chesterton-on-miracles
If you find that intellectually stimulating, see more of his profound thought & captivating prose in the rest of the book here: ccel.org/ccel/chesterton/orthodoxy.html
See also GKC's much shorter earlier work:
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/gk/blatchford/cont.shtml
You are flatly awesome RK."*
What a gorgeous stentorian magisterial spiritually correct comment!.. God bless ..we agree absolutely...and were not Catholics! >>>
Thank you very much! I'm one of the relatively small but growing number of traditional Catholics independent of Judeo-Masonic colonized & apostate Rome. It's the fulfillment of prophesy, called the Great Apostasy. The 1958 papal conclave is the pivotal event, as my link above explains. More on my X page, @rosaryknight.
If you're a "Bible alone" believing Protestant you may want to see what the early Church Fathers wrote on various doctrinal matters, e.g. in amazon.com/Writings-Church-Fathers-According-Topic/dp/1539646602
and/or this on the Church & the Bible:
docs.google.com/file/d/0B43z_Az4kEXdTWM4ZmVnd2JUZzA/edit
Also this short video:
"Catholicism, the Rational Case": www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXOOmK41ZVk
May God enlighten us & guide us into the truth & grant us the grace to embrace it.
Thank you …..We are non sectarian regenerated Slavic Americans pro 2A real Christians ….so we are not …*sole scriptural Protestants in that sense but perceive your clarity also…” God bless..God Speed…
At the risk of overwhelming you with links, this is a great book on the Life of Christ:
sacredheartshrine.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Life-of-Christ-Fulton-J.-Sheen.pdf
The first chapter, "The Only Person Ever Pre-Announced" is very thought-provoking & whets one's appetite to read more.
breaking the [rison walls of our thinking is a great miracle
Re**We are not overwhelmed! God bless God Speed**. (For RK.)
Hi Kevin..thanks again for your absolutely beautiful high consciousness reply to our previous comment on dogmatic persecutorial obscurantism...your reply..was....an..abject joy to read...unfortunate that other relatively public..enlightened thought leaders aren't as scholarly as yourself...**
your last comment shows you to be crazy.... as for Jesus.... why would god require human sacrifice? that's a primitive idea... its superstitious... its a very strange god that would require such a thing in order for anyone to be 'saved.'
Christianity began as a bolsehvik revolutionary movement against the Roman empire incited by god's chosen revolutionaries
That's a very common current ..trendy false narrative..but No one ever was more *anti-talmudic -bolshevism than* Jesus* Remember THE JEWS Screamed ...*let His Blood be on our heads and our children's heads*..they got what they wanted..The Deocidal Curse*...
YOUHAVE THE BIBLEAND THEN YOUHAVE REALHSTORY.... ITSCLEAR CHRISTIANITY GATHERED THE DISSATIFIEDAND WAS A REVOLUTION THAT HAS COMMITTEDMANY GNOCIDES AND TOTALLY DESTROYED THE NATIVE RELIGIONS OFEUROPEANS....THE CRIMES OF CHRISTIANITY ARE GREA BUT THEN YOUCAN'T HANDLE ALL THE TRUTH
Please be welcome to recall that…we don't delimit freedom s we don't make ad hominem subjective and cherry picked attacks on any decent person anywhere..we don't serve Jews..ZIONISTS..or any would be empire building false authority .if you or anyone wants to use past grievances real or imagined to justify Isrreali..-jewish supremacy please go away**We don't support the genocides ethnic cleansing and exterminations by isreal and millions of Jews*.in Palestine..*. You don't seem open to other or different ideas than your own..no problem ..leave us alone** We don't attack Christians or natural law advocates or decent folk anywhere ..*
as we see in christianitytoday.....itsa toolin the hands of jew..be honest
We agree with your last point about evangelicals and some..not all dead churches but your hostility to us is not correct …and not welcome...If you think you will stop JEWS by attacking Christians on the myopic basis of some false churches…you serve. THE JEWS**There..fixed it for you. Go falsely accuse or try to coerce someone else “*. Go talk abusively..down to someone Else”
Thank you for screaming a subjective cherry picked ad ho.onrm reply..please know in actual fact* we* don't support dead churches but unlike Jews ..Communists and other satanic malefactors we don't attack Christians ..free thinkers. ..natural law advocates..or any decent moral folk..if you have do little scholarship so little tolerance if different approaches different ideas that..in any case. Do not threaten you or delimit freedom of any other decent persons .please be welcome to go away*
you have a perception or honestyproblem.... that is your problem
I'm afraid I'll miss the livestream but miracles have been much on my mind. Rather than the seas parting to let the Usurping Rulers and their terrorists escape, I think miracles are the mundane things that let us know there's purpose and meaning behind our circumstances. They can never convince anyone else but that's not necessary: you only need to convince yourself in order to change everything. In my latest, I talk about the most mundane miracles ever, and the video is one of my most fun: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/the-sox-box-miracle
The network is down! No livestream! Oh well...
Well, I couldn't hit 'like' on that :-( I'll look forward to it when it's restored. But my definition of miracles would say there's meaning and purpose in that disruption. My friend Rev. Katie Grace redefines WTF as 'What's This For?' So I'm sure it will come back in a better form. Inshallah, which really sums up that whole philosophy in a word.