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Ray McGinnis's avatar

Thanks Ed and Kevin for a refreshing discussion. How to reach people that are not already familiar with any of the issues you've named. As Jim Douglass writes in JFK & The Unspeakable, because the crimes committed are so unconscionable, it decimates all notions of American exceptionalism. To contemplate others complicit in the crimes connected to govt. is too awful to be believed. To name the most likely source(s) of the crimes in play is met with a Berlin Wall of resistance and dismissal. As I've found with writing my book, several people have angrily told me it is a "conspiracy theory" to suggest that the Sept. 11 families could have had ANY questions after the attacks they wanted their government to answer. Facts don't matter when one's "doll house" is seen to be under threat. And so, public myths are embraced. And it's Happy Hour again.

Arden Kirkman's avatar

When you and Ed were not quite agreeing at around minute 17 about the numbers and details of WW2, it made me think of Webster Tarpley's World Crisis Radio talk on 7/31/21 in which he mentioned Spain and the Catalonians. Because I never learned much history about Spain and have just finished reading Helen MacInnes's Message from Malaga, I got out my Grolier encyclopedia C to read up a little bit on them. After reading about the Catalonians, I saw and was drawn to read about the Catacombs. I learned that the number of bodies interred there has been estimated to be between 6 and 7 million. I thought that figure was interesting since the narrative about the holocaust uses the figure of 6 million, and wondered if that could have been where the idea of that figure first came from. Anyway, this was your best interview ever, and you and Ed have hit the nail on the head. Thank you both!

Kevin Barrett's avatar

Thank you, Arden! "Best interview ever" is quite a compliment.