While your analysis of why the Elites want to destroy any force that stands in their way, like culture, family, sexual restraints, rule of law, history, or religion is spot on, I think you are wrong about the Elites fearing Islam other than just another enemy to be corrupted. If sadly one lesson from history is true, it is "Power Corrupts". While the earthly lessons of Islam, as distinct from the Holy lessons, shows this to be true, arguably better or worse (due to the concentration of earthly and religious power) than others. Whether Istanbul or Riyadh, Elites have historically been able to corrupt "Islamic" rulers to make their resources available for their benefits, not the benefits of their people. Particularly if the leaders use the cover of religion to justify their unholy actions. Why fear what you can corrupt and control? Sadly the story of our times.
I generally agree with American jurisprudence in its approach to what is and is not First Amendment protected speech. Traditionally, blasphemy, obscenity, pornography, slander, "fighting words," incitement, fraud, and true threats have been among the non-First-Amendment-protected categories. I am fine with all of those "thought crimes" being illegal.
Everything you just used as an example of what is not protected by the first amendment is absolutely protected with the exception of incitement and slander, including blasphemy.
The freedom to blaspheme is one of the core principles of the first amendment as is it both protected by the concept of free speech as well as that of prohibiting the establishment of or free exercise of religion.
I'm guessing you disagree with this so in your rebuttal, please do not skip the identification of the victim in the crime of blasphemy, and what the actual harm us.
If pornography is illegal, then well I suggest you go check the internet for proof of how nonsensical that claim is.
"If pornography is illegal, then well I suggest you go check the internet for proof of how nonsensical that claim is."
That is a non-sequitur, like saying millions of children are being sexually abused or millions of women & girls kill their unborn children so it's nonsensical to make those illegal.
In case you didn't know, pornography is a powerful weapon in the arsenal of the Jewish ruling elite for purposes of control & increase of their power. A good example: In 2002, the Israeli military took over the Palestinian TV station when they occupied Ramallah. Shortly afterward, the Israeli forces began broadcasting porn. Why? Because porn is a weapon in the arsenal of psychological warfare. It is the weaponization of lust. Some good sources:
The Messianic Jewish occult/Luciferian ruling power wants continual conflict, including between Zionist-Jewish controlled Western powers & Islam. Weaken, destroy, "divide & conquer."
On August 15, 1871 Sovereign Grand Commander of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry General Albert Pike wrote a letter to Italian P-1 33rd Degree Grand Commander Guiseppe Mazzini. In the letter Pike talked of a Brotherhood plan for THREE WORLD WARS. The first, he said, would destroy czarist Russia and create a Communist “bogeyman” which the bankers could employ to justify their foreign interventions around the world. The second, Pike said, would be used to create Israel, which would become a mercenary force for the international bankers, protecting oil interests for Rothschild and Rockefeller combines.
The Third World War, stated Pike’s letter, would pit Arabs against Zionists [Western powers], and would culminate in a New World Order completely controlled by the international bankers and their secret societies. Pike described the events that would unfold as pretext for WWIII, “We must provoke a social cataclysm which in all its horror…everywhere, the citizens obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries…will receive the true light through…the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out into public view.”
On July 2, 2023, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council and former president of Russia, published an article, titled “The Age Of Confrontation,” in the official Russian government daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta. In the article, Medvedev wrote that the world is in a confrontation far worse than that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that nuclear war is "probable."
Whether there will be nuclear war or not, or whether "they" are just seeking massive depopulation & total control before Planet X/Nibiru comes around before 2030 doing its unpleasantly destructive thing, it's good to know there is a power greater than the Atomic Bomb, or anything in this world, & greater than Satan. See the 2nd article here, “The Holy Rosary and the Atomic Bomb,” on miraculous events in Hiroshima & Nagasaki in 1945:
Dr Barrett, I realize you converted to Islam & that you believe that the Koran is "a book containing God’s final and best-preserved message to humanity." You have a PhD in Islamic Studies. Didn't you learn during your many years of study that the Koran contains a combination of Old Testament Judaism, heretical Nestorian Christianity, & local Arab religious teachings? Do you really believe Muhammad to be a holy man? Do you think that a religion that spreads by the sword, by a "convert or die" option (or sometimes just be a heavily taxed 2nd class citizen) is from God? That Jesus didn't die on the cross? (Ever study the Shroud of Turin? https://vaticancatholic.com/?s=shroud) Have you even read the gospels & the other New Testament writings? If you did, try it again & ask yourself if it seems like just a preparation for the coming of Islam. Don't you realize that would mean "God is One" (O.T. Judaism) developed into "God is a Trinity, 3 Persons in One God" (Christianity) then regressed back to "God is One"? Do you know what the Catholic Church was like before the 1958 Judeo-Masonic usurpation of the papacy leading to a revolution in the newly created & counterfeit Vatican II Council church (the one that E Michael Jones still believes in, despite being cogently correct about so much else)?
The Trinity doesn't make sense to me, or even to most American Christians! It grew out of a pagan error (Roman worship of humans as gods) and has been used to turn religion into a tool of mystification and oppression. See: https://crescent.icit-digital.org/articles/enlightenment-unitarianism.
The Divine Trinity is the primordial dialectic, with the Son being eternally begotten of the Father, and the love between God the Father and God the Son "spirating" God the Holy Spirit: 3 Persons in 1 God, an unfathomable mystery but we see faint reflections of trinitarian dialectic all around and within us, a good example of the latter being the human soul having 3 spiritual faculties: intellect, will, and intellectual memory, and in nature fire producing both light and heat.
Just like the Incarnation of the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 1 Divine Person with 2 natures, Divine & human (2 "whats" but 1 "who"), the revealed truth of God being 1 Divine substance but 3 co-equal Divine Persons is a mystery, but in that dark mystery other things are illuminated & clarified, e.g. "God is love." If you've read the gospels, you know that Jesus is either who He said He was, or a megalomaniacal liar, or a lunatic. If the last 2 can't be asserted, all that's left is the startling truth that God became man & suffered & died in our stead, the innocent for the guilty, so that our sins may be forgiven.
I just uploaded Chesterton's 2nd part of his highly acclaimed Everlasting Man. He is one of the deepest thinkers that ever existed & also writes in a unique style. Give it a look. You won't regret it. He talks about Islam as well.
I recommend you read the Quran, surely a person could not have composed it without having read the hebrew scriptures. You are saying not only was he not illiterate in arabic (scribes wrote his revelations) but knew how to read hebrew too, and copied into the arabic?
In the early 7th C., the Sacred Scriptures were available in Greek, Latin, & some Middle East languages as well. It was only the Old Testament & Matthew's gospel that were available in Hebrew, the latter being lost during the destructive years of barbarian invasions. When Muhammad wrote the Koran, Arabia was home to both Catholics, Nestorian heretics (believing Jesus was not divine & equal to the Father), & Jews, as well as Manicheans & other eastern religions.
Bwahaha, so now yer saying an arabic illiterate Muhamed knew how to read the latin, etc then instead of hebrew? The point was that from an arabic illiterate you were assuming him a well read polyglot? Yer logic is typically yiddish lacking in truth and divergent, are you?
Yes, its possible, that in a pagan dominated Mecca that famously chased away the Prophet with his new religion, there were Christians/Jews living from whom the Prophet garnered intimate historical knowledge of earlier prophets mentioned in the Quran, either verbally or by reading their Old/New Testaments written in the arabic (as you allege). And pretended throughout his entire 63 year life (to his wives and close companions) to being an illiterate when it came to writing down the revelations in magical prose ie Quran, that came to him over 23 years of his life between the ages of 40 and 63. Another great conman like an obama or schofield who pretended he wrote the ghost written notes in his Scofield Bible (paid for by a certain untermeyer of the Rev 2-3:9 sos). Muhameds notes ie Quran are actually wholly Holy Ghost written!! Iqra, Iqra, then you will accept Sheikh Spear is only a schoolboy in comparison.
The idea that only literate people have access to knowledge is a modern fallacy. Nonliterate societies have intellectuals too. The largely nonliterate society of early 7th century Arabia produced some of the world's greatest poetry. It's a safe bet that the (nonliterate) intellectuals of 600 c.e. Mecca were reasonably familiar with Christian, Jewish, and Hanif (freelance monotheist) religious concepts, which is why God could speak to them through the Quran assuming familiarity with that material.
First of all, Muhammad was just a man who founded a religion, whereas Jesus was & is God who took on a human nature & willingly, out of love, suffered & died as a sacrificial offering in atonement for the sins of mankind, & rose from the dead as He foretold.
This may sound offensive, but "revelations" often come from evil spirits. Many people are deceived by such false revelations. The following gives evidence that Muhammad's revelations were not from God.
1. Mohammed preached for decades in Mecca and his new religion, cobbled together from bits of Nestorian Christianity and Diaspora Judaism, grew to only about 150 followers. Then he went to Medina, became political and violent, and altered his doctrines to encourage his followers to take the property of unbelievers, enslave or kill them, and capture their wives and daughters as sex slaves. After making that decision, his following grew by several thousands in only a decade. This is all based on the Hadiths and is uncontested by any school of Islamic scholarship.
2. Mohammed is therefore not primarily to be viewed as a religious teacher: At that, he failed. But he was a very successful Arabian warlord. He created an army and incentivized it to a ruthless effectiveness. To that degree, he is comparable to Shaka Zulu. Mohammed's religious doctrines would never have become widespread had it not been for his success at conquering, as his earlier failure-to-launch in the Meccan period demonstrates.
3. Islam's early growth after Mohammed followed the same pattern: It grew through conquest, not by convincing people of its truth. Meanwhile the standardization of the Quran, and the redacting of the Hadiths, were done under the supervision of the first few caliphs. The resulting norms of Islamic practice are really very-well architected for uniting and expanding an empire through conquest of its neighbors. And the proof is in the pudding: The Islamic caliphs conducted constant warfare against Christian North Africa until the land of St Augustine became the land of the Barbary Pirates. None of that is controversial.
4. Mohammed, a slave-taking, child-bride-deflowering, conquering marauder, is held to be the example of behavior for Muslims. That, too, is core Muslim teaching. Consequently jihad (by money, by propaganda, and sometimes by violence) is an irrevocable religious obligation in Islam. Likewise is the subjugation of the kafir, the unbeliever. Likewise compelling the kafir to pay the jizya. Likewise the permissibility of taqiya (religiously-motivated lies to advance Islam) and of taking sex slaves. Any form of Islam which removes those items is NOT originalist Islam.
5. But that means our Muslim neighbors, if they are peaceable, are NOT practicing originalist Islam, either because they are consciously ignoring that part of the Islamic teaching, or because they don't know about it. As a practical question, should one try to convince them that, to be good Muslims, they ought to be more jihadist than they are? Probably not! …but, then again, knowing what Islam actually is might help them see that it's false.
Voltaires Q5:82, have accumulatrd too much money and power now, especially in the US (where the burning started) and as usual its about defying the Almighty (doing an oppenheimer/fauci), there must definately be a katherine koss infiltrated into the swedish wallenbergs, a goyim totally unaware of the theroux/hagi/sos in their midst.
Spot on as the Poms day. Kevin seems to have a
Monopoly on common sense & rational analysis
While your analysis of why the Elites want to destroy any force that stands in their way, like culture, family, sexual restraints, rule of law, history, or religion is spot on, I think you are wrong about the Elites fearing Islam other than just another enemy to be corrupted. If sadly one lesson from history is true, it is "Power Corrupts". While the earthly lessons of Islam, as distinct from the Holy lessons, shows this to be true, arguably better or worse (due to the concentration of earthly and religious power) than others. Whether Istanbul or Riyadh, Elites have historically been able to corrupt "Islamic" rulers to make their resources available for their benefits, not the benefits of their people. Particularly if the leaders use the cover of religion to justify their unholy actions. Why fear what you can corrupt and control? Sadly the story of our times.
"Why do you think Western countries allow the desecration of holy scriptures such as the Quran under the guise of “freedom of expression”?
The answer to this question is in the question itself. No crime can be committed if there is no victim, and causing offence is a victimless act.
Your answer has nothing to do with the actual question asked. Your answer is to the question "Why do western leaders encourage/promote Quran burning?"
It is a good and accurate answer. My question is "are there any other thought crimes you think shouid be illegal?"
I generally agree with American jurisprudence in its approach to what is and is not First Amendment protected speech. Traditionally, blasphemy, obscenity, pornography, slander, "fighting words," incitement, fraud, and true threats have been among the non-First-Amendment-protected categories. I am fine with all of those "thought crimes" being illegal.
Everything you just used as an example of what is not protected by the first amendment is absolutely protected with the exception of incitement and slander, including blasphemy.
The freedom to blaspheme is one of the core principles of the first amendment as is it both protected by the concept of free speech as well as that of prohibiting the establishment of or free exercise of religion.
I'm guessing you disagree with this so in your rebuttal, please do not skip the identification of the victim in the crime of blasphemy, and what the actual harm us.
If pornography is illegal, then well I suggest you go check the internet for proof of how nonsensical that claim is.
"If pornography is illegal, then well I suggest you go check the internet for proof of how nonsensical that claim is."
That is a non-sequitur, like saying millions of children are being sexually abused or millions of women & girls kill their unborn children so it's nonsensical to make those illegal.
In case you didn't know, pornography is a powerful weapon in the arsenal of the Jewish ruling elite for purposes of control & increase of their power. A good example: In 2002, the Israeli military took over the Palestinian TV station when they occupied Ramallah. Shortly afterward, the Israeli forces began broadcasting porn. Why? Because porn is a weapon in the arsenal of psychological warfare. It is the weaponization of lust. Some good sources:
E Michael Jones: https://www.europereloaded.com/pornography-and-political-control-not-liberation-as-weve-been-told
https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/06/the-idol-is-another-khazarian-pornification-of-the-world (Weimar, Moral Subversion, etc.)
Porn Jewish: https://twitter.com/i/status/1631189279610396676
E Michael Jones: https://www.fisheaters.com/jc-jones3.html
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/12/06/an-anecdote-about-hollywood-depravity
Jones, Libido Dominandi: Sex, Power, Control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQeRu7BUEr8
https://www.unz.com/ejones/pornography-and-political-control-the-hexenhammer-debate/
I'm sorry you misunderstood. Nowhere did I voice an opinion on whether or not pornography should be illegal. As
The Messianic Jewish occult/Luciferian ruling power wants continual conflict, including between Zionist-Jewish controlled Western powers & Islam. Weaken, destroy, "divide & conquer."
On August 15, 1871 Sovereign Grand Commander of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry General Albert Pike wrote a letter to Italian P-1 33rd Degree Grand Commander Guiseppe Mazzini. In the letter Pike talked of a Brotherhood plan for THREE WORLD WARS. The first, he said, would destroy czarist Russia and create a Communist “bogeyman” which the bankers could employ to justify their foreign interventions around the world. The second, Pike said, would be used to create Israel, which would become a mercenary force for the international bankers, protecting oil interests for Rothschild and Rockefeller combines.
The Third World War, stated Pike’s letter, would pit Arabs against Zionists [Western powers], and would culminate in a New World Order completely controlled by the international bankers and their secret societies. Pike described the events that would unfold as pretext for WWIII, “We must provoke a social cataclysm which in all its horror…everywhere, the citizens obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries…will receive the true light through…the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out into public view.”
On July 2, 2023, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council and former president of Russia, published an article, titled “The Age Of Confrontation,” in the official Russian government daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta. In the article, Medvedev wrote that the world is in a confrontation far worse than that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that nuclear war is "probable."
Whether there will be nuclear war or not, or whether "they" are just seeking massive depopulation & total control before Planet X/Nibiru comes around before 2030 doing its unpleasantly destructive thing, it's good to know there is a power greater than the Atomic Bomb, or anything in this world, & greater than Satan. See the 2nd article here, “The Holy Rosary and the Atomic Bomb,” on miraculous events in Hiroshima & Nagasaki in 1945:
http://catholicapedia.net/Documents/Chiesa_viva/Chiesa_viva_486_en-_FINAL.pdf
The first article is extremely important too.
“All human conflict is ultimately theological.” (Cardinal Henry Edward Manning)
Dr Barrett, I realize you converted to Islam & that you believe that the Koran is "a book containing God’s final and best-preserved message to humanity." You have a PhD in Islamic Studies. Didn't you learn during your many years of study that the Koran contains a combination of Old Testament Judaism, heretical Nestorian Christianity, & local Arab religious teachings? Do you really believe Muhammad to be a holy man? Do you think that a religion that spreads by the sword, by a "convert or die" option (or sometimes just be a heavily taxed 2nd class citizen) is from God? That Jesus didn't die on the cross? (Ever study the Shroud of Turin? https://vaticancatholic.com/?s=shroud) Have you even read the gospels & the other New Testament writings? If you did, try it again & ask yourself if it seems like just a preparation for the coming of Islam. Don't you realize that would mean "God is One" (O.T. Judaism) developed into "God is a Trinity, 3 Persons in One God" (Christianity) then regressed back to "God is One"? Do you know what the Catholic Church was like before the 1958 Judeo-Masonic usurpation of the papacy leading to a revolution in the newly created & counterfeit Vatican II Council church (the one that E Michael Jones still believes in, despite being cogently correct about so much else)?
https://novusordowatch.org/2016/10/smoke-signals-white-smoke-1958
https://whitesmoke1958.com
I recommend you read the 2nd Part of G.K. Chesterton's The Everlasting Man, or even the Anglican C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity
The Trinity doesn't make sense to me, or even to most American Christians! It grew out of a pagan error (Roman worship of humans as gods) and has been used to turn religion into a tool of mystification and oppression. See: https://crescent.icit-digital.org/articles/enlightenment-unitarianism.
The Divine Trinity is the primordial dialectic, with the Son being eternally begotten of the Father, and the love between God the Father and God the Son "spirating" God the Holy Spirit: 3 Persons in 1 God, an unfathomable mystery but we see faint reflections of trinitarian dialectic all around and within us, a good example of the latter being the human soul having 3 spiritual faculties: intellect, will, and intellectual memory, and in nature fire producing both light and heat.
Just like the Incarnation of the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 1 Divine Person with 2 natures, Divine & human (2 "whats" but 1 "who"), the revealed truth of God being 1 Divine substance but 3 co-equal Divine Persons is a mystery, but in that dark mystery other things are illuminated & clarified, e.g. "God is love." If you've read the gospels, you know that Jesus is either who He said He was, or a megalomaniacal liar, or a lunatic. If the last 2 can't be asserted, all that's left is the startling truth that God became man & suffered & died in our stead, the innocent for the guilty, so that our sins may be forgiven.
I just uploaded Chesterton's 2nd part of his highly acclaimed Everlasting Man. He is one of the deepest thinkers that ever existed & also writes in a unique style. Give it a look. You won't regret it. He talks about Islam as well.
https://archive.org/details/gkc-the-everlasting-man-selections
I recommend you read the Quran, surely a person could not have composed it without having read the hebrew scriptures. You are saying not only was he not illiterate in arabic (scribes wrote his revelations) but knew how to read hebrew too, and copied into the arabic?
In the early 7th C., the Sacred Scriptures were available in Greek, Latin, & some Middle East languages as well. It was only the Old Testament & Matthew's gospel that were available in Hebrew, the latter being lost during the destructive years of barbarian invasions. When Muhammad wrote the Koran, Arabia was home to both Catholics, Nestorian heretics (believing Jesus was not divine & equal to the Father), & Jews, as well as Manicheans & other eastern religions.
Bwahaha, so now yer saying an arabic illiterate Muhamed knew how to read the latin, etc then instead of hebrew? The point was that from an arabic illiterate you were assuming him a well read polyglot? Yer logic is typically yiddish lacking in truth and divergent, are you?
I said, "In the early 7th C., the Sacred Scriptures were available in Greek, Latin, & some Middle East languages as well. Arabic is one of them.
Yes, its possible, that in a pagan dominated Mecca that famously chased away the Prophet with his new religion, there were Christians/Jews living from whom the Prophet garnered intimate historical knowledge of earlier prophets mentioned in the Quran, either verbally or by reading their Old/New Testaments written in the arabic (as you allege). And pretended throughout his entire 63 year life (to his wives and close companions) to being an illiterate when it came to writing down the revelations in magical prose ie Quran, that came to him over 23 years of his life between the ages of 40 and 63. Another great conman like an obama or schofield who pretended he wrote the ghost written notes in his Scofield Bible (paid for by a certain untermeyer of the Rev 2-3:9 sos). Muhameds notes ie Quran are actually wholly Holy Ghost written!! Iqra, Iqra, then you will accept Sheikh Spear is only a schoolboy in comparison.
The idea that only literate people have access to knowledge is a modern fallacy. Nonliterate societies have intellectuals too. The largely nonliterate society of early 7th century Arabia produced some of the world's greatest poetry. It's a safe bet that the (nonliterate) intellectuals of 600 c.e. Mecca were reasonably familiar with Christian, Jewish, and Hanif (freelance monotheist) religious concepts, which is why God could speak to them through the Quran assuming familiarity with that material.
First of all, Muhammad was just a man who founded a religion, whereas Jesus was & is God who took on a human nature & willingly, out of love, suffered & died as a sacrificial offering in atonement for the sins of mankind, & rose from the dead as He foretold.
This may sound offensive, but "revelations" often come from evil spirits. Many people are deceived by such false revelations. The following gives evidence that Muhammad's revelations were not from God.
1. Mohammed preached for decades in Mecca and his new religion, cobbled together from bits of Nestorian Christianity and Diaspora Judaism, grew to only about 150 followers. Then he went to Medina, became political and violent, and altered his doctrines to encourage his followers to take the property of unbelievers, enslave or kill them, and capture their wives and daughters as sex slaves. After making that decision, his following grew by several thousands in only a decade. This is all based on the Hadiths and is uncontested by any school of Islamic scholarship.
2. Mohammed is therefore not primarily to be viewed as a religious teacher: At that, he failed. But he was a very successful Arabian warlord. He created an army and incentivized it to a ruthless effectiveness. To that degree, he is comparable to Shaka Zulu. Mohammed's religious doctrines would never have become widespread had it not been for his success at conquering, as his earlier failure-to-launch in the Meccan period demonstrates.
3. Islam's early growth after Mohammed followed the same pattern: It grew through conquest, not by convincing people of its truth. Meanwhile the standardization of the Quran, and the redacting of the Hadiths, were done under the supervision of the first few caliphs. The resulting norms of Islamic practice are really very-well architected for uniting and expanding an empire through conquest of its neighbors. And the proof is in the pudding: The Islamic caliphs conducted constant warfare against Christian North Africa until the land of St Augustine became the land of the Barbary Pirates. None of that is controversial.
4. Mohammed, a slave-taking, child-bride-deflowering, conquering marauder, is held to be the example of behavior for Muslims. That, too, is core Muslim teaching. Consequently jihad (by money, by propaganda, and sometimes by violence) is an irrevocable religious obligation in Islam. Likewise is the subjugation of the kafir, the unbeliever. Likewise compelling the kafir to pay the jizya. Likewise the permissibility of taqiya (religiously-motivated lies to advance Islam) and of taking sex slaves. Any form of Islam which removes those items is NOT originalist Islam.
5. But that means our Muslim neighbors, if they are peaceable, are NOT practicing originalist Islam, either because they are consciously ignoring that part of the Islamic teaching, or because they don't know about it. As a practical question, should one try to convince them that, to be good Muslims, they ought to be more jihadist than they are? Probably not! …but, then again, knowing what Islam actually is might help them see that it's false.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1675953011271643141 (video)
Voltaires Q5:82, have accumulatrd too much money and power now, especially in the US (where the burning started) and as usual its about defying the Almighty (doing an oppenheimer/fauci), there must definately be a katherine koss infiltrated into the swedish wallenbergs, a goyim totally unaware of the theroux/hagi/sos in their midst.