Ken Meyercord writes: “I had a revelation last night as I lay tossing and turning, and I thought I’d run it by you to see how you think it ranks with St. Paul’s conversion on the road to Damascus. There’s a website out there called ‘Jew or Not Jew‘, on which individuals are scored (between zero and 15) as to whether they are Jewish or not. As explained on the website, ‘We evaluate how Jewish a person is based on three factors. How Jewish they are internally, how Jewish they are externally and how much we want that person to be a Jew in the first place.’ I had always thought the site the work of some Jew-hater wanting to keep track of Jewish cliquishness in order to expose their disproportionate role in important segments of our society. Now I think differently. I think it is meant as a tool by which to identify Jews for those Jews wanting to engage in what has been called ‘ethnic nepotism.’ (Circumstantial evidence: The descriptions of the evaluation process by which an individual’s score is arrived at are so clever and witty they must have been written by a Jew.)
Interesting questions. I think Judaism is a religion, but one that fosters tribalism more than most religions do. Tribalism is of course about ASCRIBED ancestry, not scientific genetics. The "begets" and "begots" in the Torah trace a myth of ascribed ancestry, according to which "Jews" are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel, etc. So religious Jews see themselves as a tribe, meaning an extended family. After 3000 years of that religious conditioning, today's post-religious Jews do too...many of them, anyway. So just by being born "Jewish" even if they're atheists they think of themselves as ethnically Jewish. In that sense "Jewish" is an ethnicity.
That history of social conditioning doesn't completely constrain individual Jews' intellectual and spiritual freedom to choose other paths, or to interpret their tradition in all sorts of ways. For example, I despise the tribal-psychopathic interpretations of Netanyahu and Ben Gurion, but kind of like the universalist interpretations of Douglas Rushkoff and Marc Ellis. I even respect the traditional tribalism of Naturei Karta. And of course I like the truth-seeking free spirits like Gilad Atzmon.
I don't judge people positively or negatively based on their ethnic background. It what they make of it that counts. That's what Islam teaches, and like so much of Islam, it's just common sense.
So all Muslims agree that Leopold Weiss aka Muhammad Asad was one of the great Muslims of the 20th century. No well-informed Muslim would have a problem with him because he was born Jewish.
NASA received $24 billion in 2022. Thats only one of the space agencies. Good job all’s well on planet Earth. But don’t fret we are told an unmanned rocket will shortly be on the moon. They’ve just got to work out how to pass through the radiation belts we’re told. Wait didn’t we already...
Kevin’s theory that the shape of the Earth would distract from the 911 truth is just that a theory. 9 years after the attack the ruling elite knew flat earth would save their skins! Your theory could possibly be true but it does not then prove or disprove where and what we are living on. Hundreds of theories of how,why,who around 911 but only a handful of facts prove without doubt we have been lied to. Same thing with where we are living. My theory is that no man will ever know for sure and only the Creator (and possibly who He allows) will know. But what is a fact is that the ball model we’ve all been brainwashed into believing does not and cannot hold water, their own curvature calculation disproves their own model!
“Flat earther “ again! How many millions upon millions has and is being spent pushing the spinning wet ball theory?? No.1 proof we cannot be living on a big testical is water in its natural state will ALWAYS be level. I know Kevin thinks it’s impossible for water to be level because he believes a theory a man thought up a few years ago and it’s taught in classes by clever people, who by the way were taught by other clever people who have taken a theory as fact and not got any closer to prove gravity is a force pulling us down so we all don’t fly away. Shame good old gravity didn’t stop my daughters helium balloon disappear up to the sky the other week.
You have no idea how challenging it is to me to have activism conversations with the "gray haired activists" who STILL INSIST...that "major event only" political tactics are the way to go STILL NOW!
In less than ONE PARAGRAPH of conversation, the old gray haired farts state: "Lets get together a HUGE MARCH and the "media" will HAVE TO cover us anymore. Followed by: "I am so frustrated that the media does not cover us."
Like has happened for the LAST HALF CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! duh
Same person...same paragraph...same-old-same-old!
So, while you have to deal with Fetzer...I have to deal with these "old dogs"...that ain't got NO WAY to learn new tricks. Its stunning.
I am hoping that you will choose to use my new term: "Oligarch Media" or "Oligarch NEWS" [my preferred phrase]. It would be very productive for this concept to make its way into your deep mind enough for you to start using either of those terms.
Its quite typical of the "USofA Left" to get only part way into ANYTHING...and "Corporate Media" is such an example. Where did they [also you and others] STOP?
Just before considering WHO OWNS the stock OF the Corporate Media.
Agreed on rejecting "bad behavior"...agreed also on both: citizens in the USofA needing to reject much of its capitalist/militarist ways...AND...that ALL Js...ALL around the world...should totally reject Israel's awful behavior towards the Palestinians...PERIOD!
And I "think" that Kitsap County will soon locate drop boxes in every HS in the county. One of the TWO biggest mistakes that my fellow activists from the 0s-70s made was to NOT reach backward in age and make sure to INVITE every high school graduate into our democracy...OR...even into what was "THEN"...a revolution or two.
The other mistake was to TRUST what was then called "Main Stream Media" to give adequate coverage to "their opposition" [US!]. After the PICs of a napalmed young girl and an execution by pistol to the head made it into MSM NEWS, and then it became coupled with the "Conspiracy Theorized Assassination of JFK" [and everybody of influence else], the OLIGARCHS figured out that THEIR WELL PAID FOR "NEWS TALKING HEADS" simply could NOT treat us activists equally. You have NO IDEA how frustrating it isfr me to have conversations with "gray haired activists" who, well/poorly trained
Kevin, I stand my ground on this and since most Js benefit financially and even entrance into colleges and universtities...and seats on boards of major corporations, or in another ways from the tribal billionaires, even non-practicing Js are NOT going to change anything to do with their status at all. As an example: How heinous is the genocide in Palestine an Gaza...and how fair is it the Js are stealing Palestinian land and building settlements? Answers: VERY HEINOUS and totally UNFAIR [and illegal]. This behavior should be rejected by ALL Js...but NOPE...they go along with it...just like they go along being sayonims at one level or another. Hope you got my mail ballot copy...I find voting-by-mail to be GREAT! Peace robin
I think my best friend failed test#3 some 25 or so years ago. And for me, I just learned a new word in the last week or so - minyan, or "min"?. And if I had to speculate, I've had a fairly recent revelation about the true meaning, or intention of, dare I say it, blood sacrifices being a big, juicy steak. No vegetarians, these folks. I try to like and respect all people, for the record.
Kevin, a while back you had stated that you thought there were only about 6K "sayonims" [sp] living within the USofA who were fundementaly serving Israel or the Jooish Lobby's needs. I FIRMLY beg to differ. IMO EVERY Jooish person, in one way or another, is serving Israel...and here is why...it is so very, very simple. Such people have two choices:
1. Do NOT do what a "good Joo" would do when operating in the USofA...and suffer the
consequences. Negative consequences will soon come in many ways and without ANY care for
the individual...and this will surely include a "shunning" by their only real community which accepts
them. Atzmon, a solid sayonim himself, told our crowd in Seattle a few years back that Jooish
People do not have ANY consciouses. I have no life-long reason to challenge his statement.
2. If a sayonim DOES do what is required of them...even any tiny efforts to protect or support
Israel AND to give preference to hiring other sayonims into the "USofA based Israeli economy",
then they will get the financial rewards and stability. Perhaps this best defines "The Tribe".
So, with Lerner, Atzmon, and perhaps other such dignitaries whom you once trusted as being at least neutral in "tribe issues vs USofA citizenship, I think that you still may have a large blind spot here?
Either you are a TRIBESMAN...or you are NOT! The "NOTS"...don't have a good future ahead of them...
It all started with Gen Ulysses Grant being cancelled, Henry Ford died complaining and so will Ye. But truth be told the 60m redinjun genociding wasp devils deserve every borat they get, it reminds of GenghisKhan "O, people you have committed sins and I am your punishment".
Nobody is "the real Jews." Hebrew mythology grew out of Divine revelations, and everybody is equally entitled to it.
Interesting questions. I think Judaism is a religion, but one that fosters tribalism more than most religions do. Tribalism is of course about ASCRIBED ancestry, not scientific genetics. The "begets" and "begots" in the Torah trace a myth of ascribed ancestry, according to which "Jews" are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel, etc. So religious Jews see themselves as a tribe, meaning an extended family. After 3000 years of that religious conditioning, today's post-religious Jews do too...many of them, anyway. So just by being born "Jewish" even if they're atheists they think of themselves as ethnically Jewish. In that sense "Jewish" is an ethnicity.
That history of social conditioning doesn't completely constrain individual Jews' intellectual and spiritual freedom to choose other paths, or to interpret their tradition in all sorts of ways. For example, I despise the tribal-psychopathic interpretations of Netanyahu and Ben Gurion, but kind of like the universalist interpretations of Douglas Rushkoff and Marc Ellis. I even respect the traditional tribalism of Naturei Karta. And of course I like the truth-seeking free spirits like Gilad Atzmon.
I don't judge people positively or negatively based on their ethnic background. It what they make of it that counts. That's what Islam teaches, and like so much of Islam, it's just common sense.
So all Muslims agree that Leopold Weiss aka Muhammad Asad was one of the great Muslims of the 20th century. No well-informed Muslim would have a problem with him because he was born Jewish.
NASA received $24 billion in 2022. Thats only one of the space agencies. Good job all’s well on planet Earth. But don’t fret we are told an unmanned rocket will shortly be on the moon. They’ve just got to work out how to pass through the radiation belts we’re told. Wait didn’t we already...
Kevin’s theory that the shape of the Earth would distract from the 911 truth is just that a theory. 9 years after the attack the ruling elite knew flat earth would save their skins! Your theory could possibly be true but it does not then prove or disprove where and what we are living on. Hundreds of theories of how,why,who around 911 but only a handful of facts prove without doubt we have been lied to. Same thing with where we are living. My theory is that no man will ever know for sure and only the Creator (and possibly who He allows) will know. But what is a fact is that the ball model we’ve all been brainwashed into believing does not and cannot hold water, their own curvature calculation disproves their own model!
“Flat earther “ again! How many millions upon millions has and is being spent pushing the spinning wet ball theory?? No.1 proof we cannot be living on a big testical is water in its natural state will ALWAYS be level. I know Kevin thinks it’s impossible for water to be level because he believes a theory a man thought up a few years ago and it’s taught in classes by clever people, who by the way were taught by other clever people who have taken a theory as fact and not got any closer to prove gravity is a force pulling us down so we all don’t fly away. Shame good old gravity didn’t stop my daughters helium balloon disappear up to the sky the other week.
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You have no idea how challenging it is to me to have activism conversations with the "gray haired activists" who STILL INSIST...that "major event only" political tactics are the way to go STILL NOW!
In less than ONE PARAGRAPH of conversation, the old gray haired farts state: "Lets get together a HUGE MARCH and the "media" will HAVE TO cover us anymore. Followed by: "I am so frustrated that the media does not cover us."
Like has happened for the LAST HALF CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! duh
Same person...same paragraph...same-old-same-old!
So, while you have to deal with Fetzer...I have to deal with these "old dogs"...that ain't got NO WAY to learn new tricks. Its stunning.
I am hoping that you will choose to use my new term: "Oligarch Media" or "Oligarch NEWS" [my preferred phrase]. It would be very productive for this concept to make its way into your deep mind enough for you to start using either of those terms.
Its quite typical of the "USofA Left" to get only part way into ANYTHING...and "Corporate Media" is such an example. Where did they [also you and others] STOP?
Just before considering WHO OWNS the stock OF the Corporate Media.
"Its the OLIGRCHS STUPID"...
DUH?
Thankfully the YOUTH is coming...
Peace...robin
Agreed on rejecting "bad behavior"...agreed also on both: citizens in the USofA needing to reject much of its capitalist/militarist ways...AND...that ALL Js...ALL around the world...should totally reject Israel's awful behavior towards the Palestinians...PERIOD!
And I "think" that Kitsap County will soon locate drop boxes in every HS in the county. One of the TWO biggest mistakes that my fellow activists from the 0s-70s made was to NOT reach backward in age and make sure to INVITE every high school graduate into our democracy...OR...even into what was "THEN"...a revolution or two.
The other mistake was to TRUST what was then called "Main Stream Media" to give adequate coverage to "their opposition" [US!]. After the PICs of a napalmed young girl and an execution by pistol to the head made it into MSM NEWS, and then it became coupled with the "Conspiracy Theorized Assassination of JFK" [and everybody of influence else], the OLIGARCHS figured out that THEIR WELL PAID FOR "NEWS TALKING HEADS" simply could NOT treat us activists equally. You have NO IDEA how frustrating it isfr me to have conversations with "gray haired activists" who, well/poorly trained
I don't understand apps. What do I do with it after I download it, if I decide to download it, which I am not inclined to do.
Kevin, I stand my ground on this and since most Js benefit financially and even entrance into colleges and universtities...and seats on boards of major corporations, or in another ways from the tribal billionaires, even non-practicing Js are NOT going to change anything to do with their status at all. As an example: How heinous is the genocide in Palestine an Gaza...and how fair is it the Js are stealing Palestinian land and building settlements? Answers: VERY HEINOUS and totally UNFAIR [and illegal]. This behavior should be rejected by ALL Js...but NOPE...they go along with it...just like they go along being sayonims at one level or another. Hope you got my mail ballot copy...I find voting-by-mail to be GREAT! Peace robin
I think my best friend failed test#3 some 25 or so years ago. And for me, I just learned a new word in the last week or so - minyan, or "min"?. And if I had to speculate, I've had a fairly recent revelation about the true meaning, or intention of, dare I say it, blood sacrifices being a big, juicy steak. No vegetarians, these folks. I try to like and respect all people, for the record.
Kevin, a while back you had stated that you thought there were only about 6K "sayonims" [sp] living within the USofA who were fundementaly serving Israel or the Jooish Lobby's needs. I FIRMLY beg to differ. IMO EVERY Jooish person, in one way or another, is serving Israel...and here is why...it is so very, very simple. Such people have two choices:
1. Do NOT do what a "good Joo" would do when operating in the USofA...and suffer the
consequences. Negative consequences will soon come in many ways and without ANY care for
the individual...and this will surely include a "shunning" by their only real community which accepts
them. Atzmon, a solid sayonim himself, told our crowd in Seattle a few years back that Jooish
People do not have ANY consciouses. I have no life-long reason to challenge his statement.
2. If a sayonim DOES do what is required of them...even any tiny efforts to protect or support
Israel AND to give preference to hiring other sayonims into the "USofA based Israeli economy",
then they will get the financial rewards and stability. Perhaps this best defines "The Tribe".
So, with Lerner, Atzmon, and perhaps other such dignitaries whom you once trusted as being at least neutral in "tribe issues vs USofA citizenship, I think that you still may have a large blind spot here?
Either you are a TRIBESMAN...or you are NOT! The "NOTS"...don't have a good future ahead of them...
Peace...robin
Isn't the reason Jews are successful because they have superior intellect? What were the details on the study that came to that determination?
It all started with Gen Ulysses Grant being cancelled, Henry Ford died complaining and so will Ye. But truth be told the 60m redinjun genociding wasp devils deserve every borat they get, it reminds of GenghisKhan "O, people you have committed sins and I am your punishment".