Could very well be the Zionists, however, it could also be the CIA/MI6, since the Seljuk-Ottoman-Turkish alliance with the Papal-Zionists dates back 8 centuries. It is still powerful today as witnessed by the critical logistics support Turkey is providing to the Zionists despite it's lip service to Palestinians:
Sweet words for Palestine, oil, steel, cement and food to the Zionists.
I’m hoping that the Deep State operatives that do this disgusting things will age out like old rockers. I mean how do you train someone to be very clever and at the same time to be more devoted to Israel than anything else. I suppose the deep state is resupplied as a lot of Israelis are leaving Israel right now and moving to where? Bethesda, Maryland. Yes, my husband’s cousin, who disappeared for years, is now back in the U.S. and his adult son has moved the family to Bethesda. Isn’t that where all the operatives live, just guessing.
Kevin, how serious is the Donmeh infiltration of the Turkish government?
I am aware of how bad it was in the early 1900's with the Jewish "Young Turks" that carried out the Armenian genocide. Has the govt been able to weed them out over time?
your quote - The Turkish government, like its close ally Qatar, is a major supporter of Hamas,
Really ? This is the first I've heard of this. I guess when it was the Muslim Brotherhood it was...maybe still is. So interesting because Turkey is also a major trade partner with Israel. Being more inclined myself to go to Arabic websites ( in english ) I have serious doubts that Erdogan puts his money where his mouth is. This article therefore may be stirring false hope. But Putin was certainly warm ( he knows how to play the game ) with Erdogan at the BRICS summit. And if Turkey can find out who was behind the terror attack that would PERHAPS be more incentive for Mr Snake to change sides in a way that is true and meaningful. I hope so. Otherwise this is just hope porn. They tried to assassinate him a few years ago and Putin alerted him and all he did was a cull of his own military - not change direction
yes, in fact the assassinated political leader of Hamas - who was in Tehran - his body was taken 'back to Qatar' for burial. He lived there. I know the history of Hamas and their betrayal to Syria in 2011 - I know it vaguely - and I believe he was a part of that move. But Sinwar was never part of that - I doubt he was even involved with the MB but I don't know that part
Why would Israel target Turkey, which is a main supplier of its oil?
My bad! I forgot; the Israelis are clinically insane...
Seriously though, I believe Kevin is trying to make connections between dots that may not have any.
Just because there are motivations that can be applied to Israel does not mean that they were the culprits.
We should wait until the results of a serious investigation are made known.
As to Erdogan having talks with President Putin in Russia; well, President Putin is not a big fan of his as he knows that Erdogan is just a windbag of rhetoric who can easily switch sides depending on which way the winds are blowing...
Yeah, I smell something and it's probably not the Holohoax museum down the street. I sure don't trust Erdogan, even if he's doing a few things to help the Palestinians. It's not enough. He should cut off Israel's oil. now!
With as seasoned a veteran of the middle eastern milieu as KB, one could harbor hope of being treated to some valuable insights into the nature of the internal politics of this most inscrutable of that regions political players. This piece however does little to nurture such hopes - instead relying upon some hackneyed references to "satanic" jews drawn from sites long confirmed to be controlled opposition outlets created to waylay the unwary into the usual cul de sacs where most western critics of the TINY TERROR STATE end up hopelessly ensnared.
Even the effort to draw in more qualified help - in this case, Saeed al Haj, a writer who al jazeera claims to be "a :researcher specialising in Turkish affairs" has limited dividends for our author - the quotes from al Haj concentrate on recent external events to the exclusion of the much more revealing internal currents which have budded into harbingers of huge change in direction for an AKP recently chastised by an electorate finally tired of getting "played" by the master of "byzantine intrigues."
Indeed, for those who dare take on the task of scrying the entrails of this most opaque of muddled eastern nation states, a healthy dose of modesty & circumspection are recommended. Western commentary has become nothing more than a risible pastiche of references to 'BRICS,' 'Kurdish pricks,' & Russophile rhetoric which may appeal to the misguided passions of westerlings under the thumb of their thuggish sionist masters, but induce little more than laughter among the more world-traveled.
Were said modesty/circumspection applied, it would have spared our author from making himself the object of such ridicule ... the social media in Turkiye being all abuzz these days with the news of Putins thrice-fold vain effort to pronounce the name of his Turkish counterpart correctly at the BRICS affair ... err, how many years should it take to get that one item nailed? ... when making out the flailing/fading Russian leader to be the dynamic agent of 'shifting east/west polarities' rather than a party increasing sidelined by Arabs and Israelis both. Or, for another case in point, having the misfortune to feature the now infamous quote by which the Turkish President incurred both the ire of his closest ally - Azerbaijan -and his presumably most implacable enemy - Israel, in one fell swoop!
Recovery from such increasingly numerous faux pax has been Erdogan's primary mission, post election humbling, in addition to beginning to mend internal bridges intentionally burned in headier days. Without witnessing to these factors - hint - "OCALAN" and the message which Bahceli was tasked to deliver to the man and his followers, there is little chance of getting the story behind the most recent attack straightened out. Trite nonsense like seeing (sunni)Turkiye join forces with (shia)Iran could perhaps be pardoned - on this occasion - if the author were to have at least given us some small signal that he'd read Amberin Zaman or Fehim Taştekin before posing as a qualified adjudicator of what's going on in Turkiye at the moment.
"Israel" is the prime suspect is a canard totally in keeping with the equally fallacious belief that somehow the CIA and rest of the "Secret Government" are still running the show in the muddled east and elsewhere. "Oil politics" are no different than internal USA politics, where the major "donors" are folks with the power to dictate the agenda of both sides of the supposed political spectrum.
And those 'mega donors' are party to a project which ultimately sees their kin removed from the UNHOLY LAND to be re-situated in the true 'promised land' of Yakob Frank's febrile imagination - the "Greater Podolia" which minions such as the fading KGB man and his Ukranian opponent have been working hard to make a reality at last. Erdogan, for all his convolutions and erratic shifts, is one of the few, if not only player in that chess match who's moves are not pre-scripted by the same hidden hand which guides those ghouls and their trashy USA/UK sidekicks.
One can only look forward to a subsequent posting by our esteemed author, wherein he will assess the now determined rejection of Turkey's Bric's membership bid (via India's veto)with a renewed attention to the necessity of surmounting reliance upon suspect/superficial sources by digging deeper... with the tenacity & aplomb which celebrated 'middle eastern experts' should be expected to bring to the task.
Wow, Kevin - did you think that one through, or just respond from a knee jerk emotion? Given the invitation to 'up your game,' by applying some basic rules of "journalism" to your opinion pieces, you choice is instead to apply the principles that guide your involvement in organizations like "VT" aka - the WAR PARTY wing of the Democrats? You may find that picking up your check from the patrons of that group of hacks is essential to having the freedom to pontificate here, but please do not assume that everyone else falls into the same category of 'sponsored by' writers.
Some of us actually stay independent of 'sponsors' Kevin, and offer our opinions as individuals looking to understand what's going on, not as advocates for hidden interest groups. Invitations to join that small category of persons shouldn't need rile you Mr B., even if a non-sycophantic opinion dropped into your slot causes undue surprise!
It isn't a question of sycophancy, the problem is lack of coherency and concision. What exactly is your point, aside from signaling your anti-BRICS orientation? Your long-winded, vapid comment reads like something an Establishment troll would be paid by the word to write, with the aim of confusing, demoralizing, and above all wasting the time of those who read it.
Quite right Kevin - it’s not a question of ‘sycophancy’ - it’s a direct assertion -that the probable reason for your unwillingness to take up any of the matters posed is the lack of preparedness for just such an event … given the steady dose of ‘sycophancy’ which - to judge from the comments - is the usual fare here.
Any amount of hackneyed efforts at put down, dismissal, ad hom or whatever lazy trick might have worked for you in the past will have no success in dodging the diagnosis of mental flabbiness such a lack of challenge seems to left you with. The opportunity to provide a successful defense to any my points - none of which are hard to fathom, to anyone of middling intelligence - was yours to take up, or forgo. Forgo, as in forfeit Big Duke.
You’re much too old to be suffering from the ADHD which seems endemic to the younger folk, so complaints about having to read through 4 or 5 short paragraphs can only be a sign of pending enfeeblement or the acquired laziness I’ve alluded to.
Could very well be the Zionists, however, it could also be the CIA/MI6, since the Seljuk-Ottoman-Turkish alliance with the Papal-Zionists dates back 8 centuries. It is still powerful today as witnessed by the critical logistics support Turkey is providing to the Zionists despite it's lip service to Palestinians:
Sweet words for Palestine, oil, steel, cement and food to the Zionists.
I’m hoping that the Deep State operatives that do this disgusting things will age out like old rockers. I mean how do you train someone to be very clever and at the same time to be more devoted to Israel than anything else. I suppose the deep state is resupplied as a lot of Israelis are leaving Israel right now and moving to where? Bethesda, Maryland. Yes, my husband’s cousin, who disappeared for years, is now back in the U.S. and his adult son has moved the family to Bethesda. Isn’t that where all the operatives live, just guessing.
Kevin, how serious is the Donmeh infiltration of the Turkish government?
I am aware of how bad it was in the early 1900's with the Jewish "Young Turks" that carried out the Armenian genocide. Has the govt been able to weed them out over time?
Solid analysis. Especially revealing about the “Kurdish” proxies.
your quote - The Turkish government, like its close ally Qatar, is a major supporter of Hamas,
Really ? This is the first I've heard of this. I guess when it was the Muslim Brotherhood it was...maybe still is. So interesting because Turkey is also a major trade partner with Israel. Being more inclined myself to go to Arabic websites ( in english ) I have serious doubts that Erdogan puts his money where his mouth is. This article therefore may be stirring false hope. But Putin was certainly warm ( he knows how to play the game ) with Erdogan at the BRICS summit. And if Turkey can find out who was behind the terror attack that would PERHAPS be more incentive for Mr Snake to change sides in a way that is true and meaningful. I hope so. Otherwise this is just hope porn. They tried to assassinate him a few years ago and Putin alerted him and all he did was a cull of his own military - not change direction
Hamas has longed maintained offices in Turkey, and Erdogan and other Turkish leaders have regularly held friendly meetings with Hamas leaders. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/erdogan-meets-hamas-leader-turkey-discusses-efforts-regional-peace-2024-04-20/ Turkey is said to be a leading funder of Hamas, alongside Qatar and Iran.
yes, in fact the assassinated political leader of Hamas - who was in Tehran - his body was taken 'back to Qatar' for burial. He lived there. I know the history of Hamas and their betrayal to Syria in 2011 - I know it vaguely - and I believe he was a part of that move. But Sinwar was never part of that - I doubt he was even involved with the MB but I don't know that part
I also see that Erdogan has left the BRICS sumimit - snakeman - https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1849406018502996384
Why would Israel target Turkey, which is a main supplier of its oil?
My bad! I forgot; the Israelis are clinically insane...
Seriously though, I believe Kevin is trying to make connections between dots that may not have any.
Just because there are motivations that can be applied to Israel does not mean that they were the culprits.
We should wait until the results of a serious investigation are made known.
As to Erdogan having talks with President Putin in Russia; well, President Putin is not a big fan of his as he knows that Erdogan is just a windbag of rhetoric who can easily switch sides depending on which way the winds are blowing...
Israel kills their own let alone anyone else! Wake up ....have you heard of Hannibal Directive? Get some education!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/13/israel-killed-dozen-own-citizens-on-october-7-un-claims/
Yeah, I smell something and it's probably not the Holohoax museum down the street. I sure don't trust Erdogan, even if he's doing a few things to help the Palestinians. It's not enough. He should cut off Israel's oil. now!
ISIsrael!
In all major terrorist attacks, it turned out to have their involvement.
With as seasoned a veteran of the middle eastern milieu as KB, one could harbor hope of being treated to some valuable insights into the nature of the internal politics of this most inscrutable of that regions political players. This piece however does little to nurture such hopes - instead relying upon some hackneyed references to "satanic" jews drawn from sites long confirmed to be controlled opposition outlets created to waylay the unwary into the usual cul de sacs where most western critics of the TINY TERROR STATE end up hopelessly ensnared.
Even the effort to draw in more qualified help - in this case, Saeed al Haj, a writer who al jazeera claims to be "a :researcher specialising in Turkish affairs" has limited dividends for our author - the quotes from al Haj concentrate on recent external events to the exclusion of the much more revealing internal currents which have budded into harbingers of huge change in direction for an AKP recently chastised by an electorate finally tired of getting "played" by the master of "byzantine intrigues."
Indeed, for those who dare take on the task of scrying the entrails of this most opaque of muddled eastern nation states, a healthy dose of modesty & circumspection are recommended. Western commentary has become nothing more than a risible pastiche of references to 'BRICS,' 'Kurdish pricks,' & Russophile rhetoric which may appeal to the misguided passions of westerlings under the thumb of their thuggish sionist masters, but induce little more than laughter among the more world-traveled.
Were said modesty/circumspection applied, it would have spared our author from making himself the object of such ridicule ... the social media in Turkiye being all abuzz these days with the news of Putins thrice-fold vain effort to pronounce the name of his Turkish counterpart correctly at the BRICS affair ... err, how many years should it take to get that one item nailed? ... when making out the flailing/fading Russian leader to be the dynamic agent of 'shifting east/west polarities' rather than a party increasing sidelined by Arabs and Israelis both. Or, for another case in point, having the misfortune to feature the now infamous quote by which the Turkish President incurred both the ire of his closest ally - Azerbaijan -and his presumably most implacable enemy - Israel, in one fell swoop!
Recovery from such increasingly numerous faux pax has been Erdogan's primary mission, post election humbling, in addition to beginning to mend internal bridges intentionally burned in headier days. Without witnessing to these factors - hint - "OCALAN" and the message which Bahceli was tasked to deliver to the man and his followers, there is little chance of getting the story behind the most recent attack straightened out. Trite nonsense like seeing (sunni)Turkiye join forces with (shia)Iran could perhaps be pardoned - on this occasion - if the author were to have at least given us some small signal that he'd read Amberin Zaman or Fehim Taştekin before posing as a qualified adjudicator of what's going on in Turkiye at the moment.
"Israel" is the prime suspect is a canard totally in keeping with the equally fallacious belief that somehow the CIA and rest of the "Secret Government" are still running the show in the muddled east and elsewhere. "Oil politics" are no different than internal USA politics, where the major "donors" are folks with the power to dictate the agenda of both sides of the supposed political spectrum.
And those 'mega donors' are party to a project which ultimately sees their kin removed from the UNHOLY LAND to be re-situated in the true 'promised land' of Yakob Frank's febrile imagination - the "Greater Podolia" which minions such as the fading KGB man and his Ukranian opponent have been working hard to make a reality at last. Erdogan, for all his convolutions and erratic shifts, is one of the few, if not only player in that chess match who's moves are not pre-scripted by the same hidden hand which guides those ghouls and their trashy USA/UK sidekicks.
One can only look forward to a subsequent posting by our esteemed author, wherein he will assess the now determined rejection of Turkey's Bric's membership bid (via India's veto)with a renewed attention to the necessity of surmounting reliance upon suspect/superficial sources by digging deeper... with the tenacity & aplomb which celebrated 'middle eastern experts' should be expected to bring to the task.
Whoever's paying you, I hope it's by the word ; - )
Wow, Kevin - did you think that one through, or just respond from a knee jerk emotion? Given the invitation to 'up your game,' by applying some basic rules of "journalism" to your opinion pieces, you choice is instead to apply the principles that guide your involvement in organizations like "VT" aka - the WAR PARTY wing of the Democrats? You may find that picking up your check from the patrons of that group of hacks is essential to having the freedom to pontificate here, but please do not assume that everyone else falls into the same category of 'sponsored by' writers.
Some of us actually stay independent of 'sponsors' Kevin, and offer our opinions as individuals looking to understand what's going on, not as advocates for hidden interest groups. Invitations to join that small category of persons shouldn't need rile you Mr B., even if a non-sycophantic opinion dropped into your slot causes undue surprise!
It isn't a question of sycophancy, the problem is lack of coherency and concision. What exactly is your point, aside from signaling your anti-BRICS orientation? Your long-winded, vapid comment reads like something an Establishment troll would be paid by the word to write, with the aim of confusing, demoralizing, and above all wasting the time of those who read it.
Quite right Kevin - it’s not a question of ‘sycophancy’ - it’s a direct assertion -that the probable reason for your unwillingness to take up any of the matters posed is the lack of preparedness for just such an event … given the steady dose of ‘sycophancy’ which - to judge from the comments - is the usual fare here.
Any amount of hackneyed efforts at put down, dismissal, ad hom or whatever lazy trick might have worked for you in the past will have no success in dodging the diagnosis of mental flabbiness such a lack of challenge seems to left you with. The opportunity to provide a successful defense to any my points - none of which are hard to fathom, to anyone of middling intelligence - was yours to take up, or forgo. Forgo, as in forfeit Big Duke.
You’re much too old to be suffering from the ADHD which seems endemic to the younger folk, so complaints about having to read through 4 or 5 short paragraphs can only be a sign of pending enfeeblement or the acquired laziness I’ve alluded to.
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